Postings by Lawrence Harville
Q: Do I have to register every model aircraft or drone separately or can I register once and use that single number on all of my models?
A: Section 349 does not require you to register each model separately. You only need to register your name, physical address, and email address once. You can continue to use your assigned single FAA number for all of your models.
Q: When will my registration number expire?
A: Traditionally numbers need renewed after three years. Anyone who registered before December 12, 2017 will have their registration date automatically extended two years to 2020 at no charge. The only caveat to this free extension is for those individuals who specifically requested that his or her name be taken off the FAA registration database.
Q: Do only drones and multirotor operators need to register?
A: Anyone who flies a model that can freely navigate in the air and uses a remote control device (e.g. RC transmitter) is required to register. This includes drones, traditional fixed wing model aircraft, model helicopters, and other remote controlled model aircraft. If you exclusively fly models under .55 pounds, indoors, control line, or free flight models - you do not need to register.
Q: Do I need to list both my AMA number and my federal registration number on my aircraft?
A: Yes, you need to list both your AMA number and Federal registration number on your aircraft.
Q: I only fly CL, FF, or indoors - do I need to register?
A: No. If you exclusively fly indoors, FF, or CL you do not need to register.
Q: How do I check my expiration date, number, or renew?
A: You can access your FAA account at www.faadronezone.faa.gov. This site will allow you to view your personal FAA registration number and expiration date.
We are sharing this information in the Model Aviation, earlier this week in the blogs, and in the next AMA Today. https://amablog.modelaircraft.org/amagov/2018/11/13/faa-registration-renewal/
Interim Executive Director AMA
the AMA Club Roster page is working
We did this to give you a more up to date listing of ALL events in District VIII. Previously some events were either not listed on our D8 site but would show up on AMA site and sometimes the delay of posting was lengthy, now as soon as any event is approved and posted on the AMA site--YOU HAVE ACCESS.
Another bonus of the AMA site is you can look up events in any state in the USA, helps plan your vacation and where you want to go.
If you have any questions-drop me a line at Lawharv@Yahoo.com or give me a call.
I think after you look it over you will be very pleased, it is a very user friendly site.
Airfields, Heliports, Schools, AMA flying sites
Some of you guys who are SMARTER than me (OK, I know that is a large group)
Check out the site go through the drop downs and check
I just started but if you want to see AMA fields it will show every field in USA--I suggest a smaller area then you can click on any field and it will give you name of the field, same with all types of infor
Let me know what you think--
Go to site
hit Use Airmap
DRONE OPERATORS-GET STARTED
CLICK ON Brown circle if there is a site Model or full scale -click on it for info
I just started--there may be better use of the site--I DONT KNOW YET
check it out
let ALL of us know what you think---is it good --waste of time WHAT?
2017 Science fair project. Scratch building out of foam a scale 747 with electric ducted fan engines
What do you do when your 14 year old son comes out of a store with 32 sheets of foam board and wants to build a remote control 747? Interesting question! You go with it!
We had been into model aircraft for a while, but had never built a plane from scratch. I thought that he wanted to build a plane similar to the flight test foam planes that he had previously built. That was way off from want he wanted to build! As we started to layout the plane on the ping pong table, I soon realized what he wanted to build was much bigger and a giant scale plane. He said he wanted to build a scale 747 that was 9-10 foot long with 4 electric ducted fans. I knew it would be a huge project that was probably beyond our skill level, but I went with his idea.
At the same time we began the building process, my son needed an idea for an 8th grade science fair project. We mentioned his model plane project to his teacher and showed him a few early pictures. The teacher recommended that he should use it as his science fair engineering project. Great, we killed two birds with one stone! We had three months until it was due.
Knowing that time would be an issue, we got busy building and trouble shooting the many problems we encountered. The goal for the science fair was to mainly use foam board and hot glue to build a plane that could taxi, takeoff, controllably fly for at least 15 seconds, and land without a structural failure.
Once we had the rolling, partially covered fuselage and the wings in place, we noticed that we had significant wing droop and flex in the fuselage. We needed more strength so we doubled the foam ribs, added foam stringers, added balsa supports, and a few carbon fiber rods in each wing.
At this point, we began to wonder where we could flight test the plane. A nearby hobby shop referred us to a local RC flying club, RRCC (Richardson Radio Control Club) who had their own paved airpark. I contacted the president and was invited out to a fun fly event. This was the lifeline we needed to finish the project!
The wealth of knowledge that we had tapped into was invaluable. We met a RRCC member, Brad. He offered to advise us on the project and help test the engines. As it turned out, he helped us to finish the build. I am pretty sure we wouldn’t have finished the project on time without his expertise! I will just say the last three weeks before the project was due included many late nights and full build days.
In the end, the airplane weighed 41 pounds with approximately 45 pounds of thrust. We installed four 90mm EFD and ran 2 - 4s batteries in series (8s) and 22,000 mah. To ensure we had the best possibility for a successful flight, we asked Brad, with his years of experience, to fly the first flight.
We finished the airplane late on the Saturday night before the project was due, which left us one day for the test flight. The weather that day was perfect for RC flying. The airplane taxied and lifted off in 136 feet. The climb performance and handling was great and Brad said it flew really nice. Midway through the flight we lost power on all the engines. This was due to a de-soldering of a Battery series connector that we had purchased. Luckily, Brad was able to turn toward the runway and glide it down for safe landing. We were using a separate receiver battery pack for the flight controls!!
Building this airplane was a huge learning process for me and my son. It included many hours of father son time with a common goal-priceless! For the weeks following, my son and I would say to each other “IT FLEW!” As for the science fair grade and competition, he is still waiting to hear back.
Involve your AMA chartered club in support of an activity that is beneficial to a local charity or community activity…receive positive recognition in the form of television coverage, radio coverage, or print coverage; and receive additional recognition and a financial reward from AMA.
How to qualify for the Club Recognition and Reward Program.
1. Your club hosts a fun-fly, and all proceeds generated during the event are donated to the local Ronald McDonald House. If your activity and donation are highlighted by a local newspaper/magazine, radio station, television station, or Web Site, your club qualifies for the AMA Club Recognition and Reward Program. 2. Your club may decide to donate a certain number of man-hours to a park for the purpose of picking up trash along the access road every month. If your club is recognized in a positive manner by the media for its ongoing efforts, you would qualify for the AMA Club Recognition and Reward Program.
If you have additional questions, contact Chris Brooks, Public Relations Manager, at (765) 287- 1256, extension 276 or firstname.lastname@example.org. Return the Club Recognition and Reward Program form to: Chris Brooks Public Relations Manager 5161 E. Memorial Dr. Muncie IN 47302 765-287-1256 Ext. 276 email@example.com
You have a choice this year---Elections mean something --if you dont vote -Dont complain
You have two choices--you wanted something done--now you do your part.
Listed in Alpha order
Randy Cameron, Lawrence Tougas
The fabric of AMA is its 82 year history of members like you!
• AMA needs to listen better to our best asset — you the members!
• AMA must build its future and protect traditional model aviation!
I ask that you vote for me, Randy Cameron for AMA EVP and help protect model aviation.
Since introduced to Control Line flying decades ago by my father, I have enjoyed every aspect of our hobby. With four sons and eleven grandchildren, my wife Fina and I are now teaching our fourth generation of family flyers.
My interests in our hobby are wide. I have flown Control Line, Free Flight, IMAC, 3D, combat, and sport aircraft. I’ve held every club officer position in multiple clubs over the past 35 plus years, in civilian life and while in the Air Force for 22 years.
I have been an AMA Leader Member since the mid-1980s and became a contest director in the 90’s. I served as the District VI Contest Coordinator for ten years and as a District VI Associate Vice President for prior to becoming the District VI Vice President.
As an AMA Vice President on the Executive Council, I’ve served as committee chairman to AMA Special Interest Groups (SIGs), and the Property Acquisition and Development Committee (PADCOM), working to improve the AMA headquarters flying sites — home of the AMA NATs and other events. I also worked to streamline the Flying Site Improvement grant process.
The federal, Special Rule for Model Aviation must be protected! AMA is strong in providing both federal and local government advocacy. This must continue. I am the only EVP candidate that has walked the halls of Congress in Washington DC, to protect model aviation. I am also the only EVP candidate with a proven record of working to defeat local and state legislation harmful to our hobby.
The only way we can help solve the drone issues is to educate drone fliers, and bring the safe and responsible ones into our organization. A recent survey showed that fully 90% of all AMA chartered clubs are welcoming the newest multi-rotor technologies. Today, 21% of new AMA members are multi-rotor enthusiasts. The significant down-turn in media-reported drone sightings and incidents is an important validation that AMA’s efforts and influence within this community are working! I have been a staunch supporter of our marketing efforts which has allowed our membership to grow from 142,000 to approximately 200,000 members today.
The fabric of AMA is its 82 year history and members like you. In 1936 AMA was built on the principals of education, advancing technological, and providing one national voice for all modelers. From the beginning of Free Flight, to Control Line, and then Radio Control, each new technology was accepted. Numerous AMA clubs are reporting that when they welcome new interests, such as multi-rotors, these new fliers are discovering, and becoming, fixed wing and helicopter pilots as well. Just as we’ve done in the past, we must embrace new technologies to keep younger generations interested in model aviation
AMA needs to listen better to our best asset—you the members! AMA must improve on programs that; attract and involve youth in our hobby, foster club growth, provide assistance for improving and purchasing flying sites, and other important programs.
Communication to our members must improve. Existing membership and club programs are not widely recognized. AMA must improve and provide easily accessible and efficient member benefits, and eliminate costs to the members and the AMA alike.
With your vote I will bring your issues to AMA and the Executive Council, and ensure member’s needs are met.
Please email firstname.lastname@example.org for more information.
The AMA has lost its way.
The AMA has stopped listening to its members.
The AMA was founded by traditional Modelers and needs to remember that.
If you agree then please vote for me Lawrence Tougas to be the next Executive Vice President (EVP) of the AMA.
Last year I ran for President of the AMA on a similar platform. I believed then and I believe now that the majority of members in the AMA have been and always will be traditional modelers; whom I define as pilots of fixed and rotary wing models whether they be free flight, control line, or radio controlled. This is opposed to the newest segment of modeling, drone modeling.
I do not believe we should ban drone modelers from the AMA, far from that, I think as long as they fly responsibly and follow our safety code they are welcome to join. My issue is the irresponsible drone modelers who have caught the media’s attention. Their actions must be stopped before more harm is done.
The number of drone modelers in the AMA has plateaued at 8% of total membership. As the current District X VP I have access to our membership numbers and have been observing this trend for some time. One issue I see is that we spend much more than 8% of our staff’s time on issues associated with drone modeling. The Executive Council has spent the last several years addressing drone issues well out of proportion to 8% of our time.
I think there should be more or less a balance of our time and resources spent between the various modeling disciplines. The claim that drone modeling will be a great source of future membership is simply not being reflected in our membership data. That fact has to be recognized and the AMA’s time and money need to be rebalanced to support our core constituency which is overwhelmingly traditional modelers. Elect me as your EVP and I will make that my goal.
I have served as the AMA’s District X Vice President for almost 7 years. During this time I have worked on our Finance, Election and Insurance Committees. During my time on the Executive Council there have been times when I have disagreed with programs that we were developing. When those times come I am not afraid to speak truth to power. You can count on me to keep what is best for our membership as my number one priority.
I have made it a point to travel the district attending events and meetings with as many clubs as possible. I fly competitively. I currently fly Precision Aerobatics in the Advanced class and have attended the last 4 NATS. I have spent 26 years working as an Engineer with a major U.S. airline. During that time I have dealt with the FAA extensively. I have over 23 years of experience in the FAA rulemaking process. I am the only candidate with this much experience with the FAA.
Please follow my campaign at, www.tougas4evp.com.
Like me on Facebook at https://www.facebook.com/tougas4president
Follow me on Twitter at https://twitter.com/tougas4pres
P.S. Remember if you want the AMA to be balanced in the way it treats its members then I am the right choice for AMA EVP.
Club Disaster Relief Program
When nature turns cruel, AMA is there for clubs.
The Academy’s most prized possessions, aside from its members, of course, are the thousands of AMA flying sites that are necessary to pursue aeromodeling at its best. When a natural disaster strikes, AMA has your back.
For chartered clubs that suffer damage to their sites through natural disasters such as tornadoes, hurricanes, earthquake, fire, or similar catastrophic events, AMA offers limited financial assistance (up to $500 per incident) to help clubs with the repairs needed to make sure that the damaged flying site is again accessible and usable to club members.
Please note: This is a grant, not a loan. It is not intended to pay for repairs to structures or facilities, except as to the extent to make the site and runway adequate for flying once again. Your club needs to provide adequate photos of and information about the damage for your application to qualify.
If you have any questions about the Club Disaster Relief Program, please call (765) 287-1256, extension 200, or email email@example.com.
application in PDF format.
Please email your application to Joyce Hager at firstname.lastname@example.org or mail it to Academy of Model Aeronautics, 5161 E. Memorial Dr., Muncie IN 47302, attn: Joyce Hager.
According to the FAA website, “If you are an owner operating exclusively in compliance with section 336 and you wish to delete your registration and receive a refund of your registration fee, you may do so by accessing a registration deletion and self-certification form (PDF) and mailing it to the FAA at the address designated on the form.”
That’s right: If you’re flying a drone recreationally and you registered with the FAA, you can get your 5 bucks back. And if you don’t want your personal information publicly accessible through the FAA’s registration database, you no longer have to volunteer it. Though keep in mind that commercial drone pilots still need to register with the FAA.
DONT use the link to email me-Lawrence Harville-the link does not work
Anyone feel free to use it.
Please pass the word and have your spouse, children, family and friends "write their Senators" in support of model aviation and Amendment 3596. Everyone's voice is needed.
Its easy and only takes a couple of minutes using AMA's web-based link. Doing so today is critical in support of recreational model aviation!
Thank you and here's the link: Just cut and paste
Send emails to me directly at
I can not receive anything you send on this websie, use my personal email, we will get it fix soon
Sorry for the confusion, we are trying to fix the problem
Latest FAA press release to reel in “rogue” drone operators. Just FYI.
Most of us AMA members bet the ones they catch will NOT be AMA members.
From: Federal Aviation Administration
Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2016 3:46 PM
Subject: FAA, DHS, CACI, UMD Perform UAS Detection Work
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FAA, DHS, CACI, UMD Perform UAS Detection Work
Each month, the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) receives more than 100 reports from pilots and others who spot what appears to be an unmanned aircraft (UAS) flying close to an airport or a manned airplane. Its become a serious safety concern for the agency, and a potential security issue for the Department of Homeland Security (DHS).
In addition to the FAAs ongoing outreach and education efforts, an additional step toward a solution is to detect and identify these rogue drones and their operators. Recently, the FAA partnered with DHS and CACI International to explore how the companys prototype detection technology may help detect UAS in the vicinity of airports. The main goal of the partnership is to safely explore procedures and processes for deploying and operating detection technologies in and around commercial airports.
The explosive growth of the unmanned aircraft industry makes evaluating detection technologies an urgent priority, said Marke Hoot Gibson, FAA Senior Advisor on UAS Integration. This research is totally aimed at keeping our skies safe, which is our number one mission.
"Working with the FAA, the DHS Science and Technology Directorate is proud to provide our expertise in testing and simulation of technologies to better address the safety and security challenges posed by unmanned aerial systems, said DHS Deputy Under Secretary for Science and Technology Robert Griffin.
CACIs proof-of-concept system employs radio frequency sensors at strategic locations around an airport in high, prominent locations. When the sensors detect frequencies unmanned aircraft typically use, it triangulates the signals and determines the location of both the UAS and the operator.
CACI Chief Operating Officer and President of U.S. Operations John Mengucci said, The results of testing under our PathFinder agreement with the FAA at Atlantic City International Airport demonstrate that CACIs proprietary system SkyTracker performed as designed. SkyTracker successfully identified, detected, and tracked UAS in flight, and precisely located drone ground operators all without interfering with airport ground operations. We are very proud to partner with the FAA and DHS to help ensure national airspace safety from the escalating UAS threat.
From January 25 to February 2, the CACI system was evaluated at Atlantic City International Airport (ACY), the first UAS detection research in a commercial airport environment. A total of 141 operations were executed over five days 72 with a UAS on the ground and 69 with different small UAS in flight. In the coming months, engineers from the FAA, DHS, CACI and the University of Maryland (UMD), which also was a partner in the evaluation, will work together to compile the data for a final report by August 2016.
Research on UAS detection systems may go beyond addressing the FAAs concerns with the safety of UAS in the nations airspace. The effort also may contribute to keeping the skies safe from bad actors who want to use unmanned aircraft for malicious purposes. To that end, the agency signed a Memorandum of Understanding (MOU) with DHS in December to collaborate on the safe integration of UAS into the U.S. aviation system.
AMA and FAA Reach an Agreement: DC SFRA Back Open to Model Aircraft
AMA and your District IV Government Relations Committee are pleased to report we have reached an agreement with the FAA that allows our members to fly once more inside the DC Special Flight Rules Area (SFRA). On Wednesday, February 10th, you may begin flying operations again.
It is important to note there is no change to the 15nm Flight Restricted Zone (FRZ) in DC. The FRZ will continue to be a no-fly zone.
In regards to the DC SFRA, the FAA has issued a permanent NOTAM. This outlines specific parameters to recreational flyers in order to fly in the SFRA. These parameters include flying under a 400' altitude ceiling, only flying platforms that weigh 55 lbs. or less, and only flying during daytime hours. These parameters will apply to everyone flying for recreational purposes inside the SFRA.
We know that AMA members fly safely and responsibly. However, it is critically important that everyone wishing to fly inside the SFRA follow these restrictions and rules. Additionally, we ask that you help pass the word to as many people as possible about these restrictions to ensure everyone knows the limits before taking flight. Ray Stinchcomb, your District IV Government Relations Coordinator, will address these restrictions in an analysis shortly.
While this is a permanent NOTAM to the DC SFRA at the present time, we are working with the FAA to allow special waivers for events. Additionally, if there are no problems with the security partners over time, we will work to obtain permanent waivers for our operations.
The AMA and your District IV Government Relations Committee are continuing efforts to work for you in representing your interests. As we work through the specifics with the FAA, we will continue to update you as quickly as possible. We greatly appreciate your patience to date, but please understand it will take some time to solve these issues.
All of us involved in this effort, including the FAA, do not have any desire to stop recreational flying and enjoyment of this hobby. One of the functions the FAA has is "encouraging and developing civil aeronautics, including new aviation technology" that includes hobby and recreational aviation.
As more and more issues surface on the city, county and state level, we would like to add a few good modelers to our district committee. If you are an active or retired congressional leader or lawyer that understands the legislative processes please drop me an email email@example.com, or Ray Stinchcomb an email firstname.lastname@example.org . Let us know your willingness and how you might be able to help represent our hobby by educating our representatives about model aviation.
Now, Go fly and have fun safely.
When I decided to run for this office, I tried and did make visits to all five states in our District. That alone was a large task. I always knew there were great modelers all over and pleased to verify they all seem to live in District 8. I am honored to be elected by one of the largest Districts in AMA and will do my best to keep you up to date and informed to the events of the day. My door, my phone, and my email are always open to you. If you have a concern or problem, just give me a call.
I am a very active modeler so hope to see you at one of your local events, but your closest outreach is to your Associate Vice President. We are very blessed to have 16 AVPs. There have been some changes with new AVPs coming on board even as you read this. The AVP’s main task is to GET OUT in their area and visit with you. Get to know them, invite them to your area or club events. They have the most up to date information I can get to them.
I assure you I will do my best to represent you on the local and national arena. If you have some ideas to make the website or District 8 better, let me know. Let’s all work together and it will make the work easier for all of us. So what can you do? Send me pictures! I want your picture, club pictures, and event pictures. I want you in the AMA Magazine; on the website… send me pictures.
District 8 is already the best District in AMA, so let’s keep it that way.
AMA FAA REGISTRATION
This information is changing so fast that I am putting a date on this post Effective Jan 29,2016.SUBJECT TO CHANGE
AMA has been and will continue to send out mass mailing to membership with the latest info on what is happening.
FOR A COMPLETE LIST OF LATEST UPDATES TO AMA--FAA QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS http://amablog.modelaircraft.org/amagov/2016/01/11/update-uas-registration-frequently-asked-questions/
We are close to streamlining registration for our members. The FAA and AMA are agreeing on solutions, but it is unlikely everything will be buttoned up by February 19. One of the biggest hurdles is that the FAA IT team cannot complete everything on time.
Q: Am I permitted to fly above 400 feet? What if I had to check a box saying otherwise on the federal registration website?
A: Yes. AMA members who abide by the AMA Safety Code, which permits flights above 400 feet, are still allowed to fly and are protected by the Special Rule for Model Aircraft under the 2012 FAA Modernization and Reform Act. The federal registration box requiring agreement to only fly under 400 feet applies to individuals who are not operating within the safety guidelines of a community-based organization. We have been in discussions with the FAA about this point and the agency has indicted that it will be updating its website in the next week to make clear that this altitude restriction does not apply to AMA members.
LATEST-----THIS IS A CHANGE----THIS IS A CHANGE---THIS IS A CHANGE
Q: Do I need to list both my AMA number and my federal registration number on my aircraft?
A: Yes, you need to list both your AMA number and Federal registration number on your aircraft. We are advocating to allow members to use their AMA numbers. We believe an AMA membership already meets the intent of registration. It should not be necessary for our members to register again through the FAA when they are already registered with the AMA.
Q: Do I have to register every aircraft?
A: No. Registration is only required for each operator. AMA members should use their same AMA number on each aircraft they are flying.
Q: I only fly CL or FF, do I need to register?
A: No. If you exclusively fly FF or CL and never plan on using a model that involves a transmitter, then you do not need to register.
Q: What happens if I don’t register by February 19?
A: According to the FAA, failure to register an unmanned aircraft may result in regulatory and criminal sanctions. This could include civil penalties of up to $27,500 and criminal penalties that include fines of up to $250,000 and/or imprisonment for up to three years.
Q: What can I do to help?
A: You can help by making your voice heard with the FAA. Specifically we are asking all AMA members to submit comments on the FAA’s interim rule on registration. The deadline to submit comments is Friday, January 15. More details can be found here.
Vice PresidentLawrence Harville